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Subject: Re: 3 grammar questions
From: Lawrence
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:58:42 GMT
References: 1, 2, 3, 4

> > > > 3) 友達とビールをのむことくらい楽しいことはない。
> > > > What does this sentence mean?
> > >
> > > There is nothing so funny as drinking beer with friends.
> > > = Drinking beer with friends is the funniest thing.
> > 楽しい is "fun," not "funny" (おかしい・面白い・おもしろおかしい), right?
>
> My bad. "There is nothing so much fun as drinking beer with friends."
>
> > > くらい + adjective means so ... as.
> > Is there much difference between this use of くらい and the ほど that means pretty much the same thing?
>
> They are the same in this case.
> 友達とビールをのむことほど楽しいことはない。
>
> See 大辞林 (だいじりん). くらい (1), (3), (4) and ほど (1), (2) are interchangeable.
>
> I find the following phrases different.
> それほど 大 (おお) きくない。 (no so big)
> それくらい 大きくない。 (awkward, and means so small as that)

Sensei, upon reading this and those two links, I find myself more confused about Hodo, kurai (and bakari for that matter) and their differences. Do you think you could explain how they differ in both denotation and connotation?


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