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Subject: Re: Old する Potential
From: Glenn
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 04:00:56 GMT
References: 1, 2


> > I was reading over the 託する thread again, and now that I understand the 科せられる, 処せられる, 発せられる, etc. forms, I was wondering what would the potential form of these verbs be? 科できる, 処できる, and 発できる aren't valid, as is written in that post, so would it be the same as the passive? I've seen 処することができる before, but I was wondering if there was a potential form of the verbs themselves.
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> I got around a thousand hits on Google for 科し得る, 処し得る, and 発し得る. Sort of old fashioned and formal though.

Yeah, that's not quite what I'm going for, though. You can do that with pretty much any verb -- なりえる, ありえる, 足りえる, 生じえる, etc. I'm talking about a potential form for the verb, like 話せる, 走れる, 食べ(ら)れる, できる, etc. Are the ones above like the 一段動詞 are in the sense that passive and potential (and I suppose 自発 too) share the same form? Or is there a different form like for 五段動詞, する, and 来る (although since the last two have suppletive forms it may be better to leave them out)?



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